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Gan is not my native language so I am unable to help you.
 
Gan is not my native language so I am unable to help you.
'''However I can help you translate that article into the Minnan language on Minnan Wikipedia''' if you first help me translate this Cantonese article into the "廣東話拼音" writing system:
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'''However I can help you translate that article into the Minnan language on Minnan Wikipedia'''.
   
   
   
'''真耶穌教會''',係[[基督]][[新教]][[五旬節教派]]嘅一支, 由於中國人[[張靈生]]同[[魏保羅]]始創於[[1917年]],喺中國[[北京]]設立嘅教會咗。哩個教會嘅目標係更正各教派對《[[聖經]]》嘅錯誤解釋,並且將拯救萬民嘅真福音傳遍世界,以便迎耶穌再嚟。現今主要分佈喺[[廣東]], [[香港]], [[臺灣]], [[新加坡]], [[日本]], [[韓國]]及[[中國]]各地。真耶穌教會包括二十世紀初由、美國傳入嘅安息日會、信心會、 神召會等教派嘅某些教義。佢也強調信獨一真神,反對三位一體教義;靠趕鬼禱告診病,不晤延醫服藥。禮拜時,要信徒跪下同聲祈禱,或者唱靈歌、跳靈舞。  
 
   
==十大信條==
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:<big>'''Thankyou very much Penkyamp'''</big> for your wonderful translation effort!
#'''信[[耶穌]]''': 信耶穌乃係道成肉身,為咗拯救罪[[人類]]代死喺[[十字架]]上,第叄天復活、升天;佢係人類唯一嘅救主,天地嘅主宰,獨一嘅[[真神]]。
 
#'''信[[聖經]]''': 信[[聖經新約]]同埋[[聖經舊約]]係神所默示嘅,為證明真道係唯一嘅根據,埋信徒喺生活嘅準則。
 
#'''信[[浸禮]]''': 信[[水]]浸係赦[[罪]]重生嘅典禮,必須由已受水靈二浸者,奉主耶穌嘅聖名,喺活水中給受浸者予以低下頭之全身浸禮。
 
#'''信[[聖靈]]''': 信受聖靈係得[[天國]]基業嘅憑據,並以說[[靈言]]為受聖靈之明證。
 
#'''信[[聖餐禮]]''': 信聖餐係為咗紀念主嘅死,同時領主[[肉]]、主[[血]],與主聯合咗,能得永生,喺末日復活之典禮。要時常舉行,但必須用一個無酵餅及葡萄汁舉辦嘅。
 
#'''信[[安息日]]''': 信安息日([[星期六]])為神賜福嘅日仔。但要喺恩典之下紀念創造及[[救贖]]嘅恩,並盼望嚟世永遠安息而遵守咗。
 
#'''信[[得救]]''': 信得救係本乎恩,也因著信咗。但必須依靠聖靈追求聖潔、實踐經訓,敬神[[愛]]人。
 
#'''信[[審判]]''': 信主耶穌必於[[世界末日]],從天降臨,審判萬民;義人得永生,惡人受永刑。
 
#'''信[[教會]]''': 信本會係耶穌基督藉晚雨聖靈所設立嘅,為咗復興使徒時代嘅真教會。
 
#'''信[[洗腳禮]]''': 信洗腳禮係與主有分,及教訓相愛、[[聖潔]]、[[謙卑]]、服事、饒恕之典禮。對每一個受浸者,要奉主耶穌嘅聖名給予洗腳一次,至於彼此洗腳,必要時亦可行咗。
 
   
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:Cantonese is very unique indeed.
   
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:''May God Bless You''!</big>
   
Please post the translation to my English Wikipedia talk page. Thankyou. --[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 06:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
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:I will definitely help you translate the majority (at least 90%) of that article into the Minnan language before the end of this August. (I have three major upcoming exams within the next few days so I currently have very limited free time at my disposal.)
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:Kind Regards, --[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 04:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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::I have created the article [http://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%84g-tang-%C5%8De_Pheng-im Here]. I will expand the article after my exams have finished. --[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 05:45, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 18:29, September 19, 2008

I'm a Cantonese enthusiastist who wants to help editing Cantonese Wikipedia and Wikicity. Could you drop me a line at tongwalomaji[at]yahoo[dim]com? Thank you.

--DesmondLee 02:56 2005年8月18日 (UTC)


Jieming's "add a new line" story http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?act=ST&f=13&t=1745&st=585#entry4707302 http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1745

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http://cantonese.wikia.com/wiki/User:Penkyamp/Penkyampji User:Penkyamp/Penkyampji


Hello ngo hay yatgo Guongdonkwa yindoifa ge yibyeu ngoihowje. Ngo jeuyiu hog ge Laidenkfa fongngon yaw Penkyamp,Yale tonkmai Sidney Lau.

Ngo beygau jonkyi yonk "j", jaw m'yonk gampdo "z". Ngo jonkyi JEÖNG go sënkdiù-how fonghay JEŨYEUNyamp jimow dow, m'hay go "e" dow gah.

Lenkngoi ngo jonkyi jeong di cisow linheysant linsenk yattiu ceongge gayceong. Ngo m'hay gey jonkyi Yeudnammant "Quoc Ngu" yatlaplap fanthoilay gamp sefad.

Dakhan tonk ngo kenkgay ah! Ngo coyjo Jyutping daydi mat penkyamp, mat lablabjabjab fongngon dow funyenk.

Ngo jonk howjonkyi Honguog gojeg "yinmant" (hangeul) tim!


Penkyamp Fongngon Edit

Penkyamp (Chinese: 拼音; Yale: ping1 yam1, Jyutping: ping1 jam1) or Cantonese pinyin, is a romanization system for transliterating Cantonese Chinese. It is a joint effort of enthusiasts in Guangzhou with a goal of devicing an alternative script to write Cantonese, replacing the standard Chinese characters plus the Cantonese folk characters. It is an attempt to standardize the language spoken by large number of residents in Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, Sydney, Auckland, Vancouver and San Francisco, from the status of a vernacular to that of a literary language.

On the other hand, the Linguistic Society of Hong Kong adopts another Cantonese Romanization called Jyutping, which is not yet popularized among Cantonese-English or English-Cantonese dictionaries. The current most widely accepted system for Cantonese Romanization are Meyer-Wempe and Yale.

Both Penkyamp and Jyutping are attempts to improve from previous systems. The features of Penkyamp includes:

  • reflects the vowel system of Cantonese more systematically than Jyutping by recognizing all long-short vowel contrasts,
    • whereas Jyutping only recognizes short a and long a.
  • indicates long and short vowels using the unique orthographic feature of altering the ending consonant of the shengmu.
  • does not have the ambiguous distinction between "oe" and "eu" (as in Jyutping).
  • treats the two (not three) front-round vowels using the same silent vowel letter "e", placed before the substantial vowel
  • categorizes the other front-round vowel (an underdeveloped one) as a short "o".
  • does not use the consonant "j", which is used in traditional Cantonese anglicization as "z" instead of "y" (as in Jyutping).

The following descriptions applies to Penkyamp.

Alphabet Edit

A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P (q) S T U W Y Z

Shengmus (Consonants aided by International Phonetic Alphabets. In order to see proper display of IPA, you must download a Unicode font)

  • B [p] unaspirated
  • C [tsʰ] aspirated
  • D [t] unaspirated
  • F [f]
  • G [k] unaspirated
  • H [h]
  • K [kʰ] aspirated
  • L [l]
  • M [m]
  • N [n]
  • P [pʰ] aspirated
  • S [s]
  • T [tʰ] aspirated
  • W [w]
  • Y [j]
  • Z [ts] unaspirated

Special Attention

  • C is [tsʰ] as "tz" in Politzer.
  • Z [tz] is the unaspirated form of C.
  • q is a glottal stop [ʔ], Arabic "hamsa", as it appears in Cantonese interjection lâq, which is interchangeable with lâg.

YunmusEdit

Vowels:

  • long: A E I O U Eo Eu
  • short: Ah Eh Oh
  • diphthongs1: Ai Oi Ui Au Iu Ay Ey Oy Aw Ow
  • diphthongs2: single vowels and diphthongs1 preceded by semi-vowel u, such as uay as in guây (expensive)

Yunmus aided by International Phonetic Symbols

long

  • A [a] ("a" alone or followed by "g", "b", "d", "ng", "m", "n", "i", "u")
  • E [ɛ] open-mid front unrounded
  • I [i]
  • O [ɔ]open-mid back rounded
  • U [u]
  • Eo [ɶ] open-mid front rounded
  • Eu [y]

short

  • Ah [ɐ]open-mid back unrounded ("a" followed by "h", "k", "p", "t", "nk", "mp", "nt", "y", "w")
  • Eh [e] close-mid front unrounded ("e" followed by above)
  • Oh [o] close-mid back rounded ("o" followed by above)

diphthongs

  • Ai [ai]
  • Oi [ɔy]
  • Ui [uy]
  • Au [au]
  • Iu [iw]
  • Ay [ɐj]
  • Ey [ej]
  • Oy [øy] (ø is mid-close front rounded)
  • Aw [ɐu]
  • Ow [ow]

Short vowels are those in short yunmus, and long vowels in long yunmus. All short vowels are pronounced with tighter, smaller enclosure of lips than are their long counterparts.

OrthographyEdit

Long yunmus followed by consonants:

  • Ru:
    • Ab Ad Ag
  • Ping/shang/qu:
    • Am An Ang
    • Eg Eng
    • Ib Id Im In
    • Od Og On Ong
    • Ud Un

Short yunmus followed by consonants:

  • Ru:
    • Ap At Ak
  • P/S/Q:
    • Amp Ant Ank
    • Ek Enk
    • Ot Ok Ont Onk

TonesEdit

  1. Yin1Ping2 or high Yin1Ru4 (Yamp1Penk4 cum high Yamp1Yap6): a1, ä (umlaut)
  2. Yin1Shang3(Yamp1Seong5): a2, ã (tilde)
  3. Yin1Qu4 or low Yin1Ru4 (Yamp1Hoy3 cum low Yamp1Yap6): a3, â (circumflex)
  4. Yang2Ping2(Yeong4Penk4): a4, a (plain)
  5. Yang2Shang3(Yeong4Seong5): a5, á (acute)
  6. Yang2Qu4(Yeong4Hoy3): a6, à (grave)

6 tones represented by numerical scales of pitch, "1" being the lowest, "6" the highest"

  • First: "Zäw" tone, scale= 66
  • Second: "Hãw" tone, scale= 35
  • Third: "Dîm" tone, scale= 44
  • Fourth: "Ho" tone, scale= 11
  • Fifth: "Mów", scale=24
  • Sixth: "Dòw", scale=22

Either the tone numbers 1-6 or the diacritic marks may be used

  • note: a shortcut for memorizing all 6 of them is a couplet:
Zaw1 Haw2 Dim3, Ho4 Mow2 Dow6
Zhou1 Kou3 Dian4, He2 Mu3 Du4 (Mandarin)
(周口店, 河姆渡)

Zhoukoudian is an archeological site near Beijing containing a 500,000 year old Homo Erectus habitat; Hemudu is a Zhejiang archeological site of Neolithic human activities

SampleEdit

Text sample in the Standard Cantonese Penk3yamp1 (simplified Chinese text are place holders for now):

trad. simp. pinyin Penkyamp meaning
北京 北京 Bei3 jing1 Bak1 genk1 Beijing
Hua1 Fa1 flower
Xie3 Se3 write
Zi4 Zi6 Chinese character
Wo3 Ngo5 I, me
Hu2 Wu4 lake
Xue1 Heo1 boot
Zhu4 Ceu5 pillar
吧(?)啦(?)ba4 lah1 one of the interjections at the end of a sentence
Huai4 Wai6 bad
Wai4 Ngoi6 outside
Bei4 Bui3 back
Jiao1 Gau3 teach
Yao1 Yiu1 waist
Fei4 Fay3 lung
Di4 Dey6 ground
Zhui1 Zoy1 pursue
Gou3 Gaw2 dog
Lu4 Low6 road
Ya1 Ngab3 duck
Sha1 Sad3 kill
Bai3 Bag3 hundred
San1 Sam1 three
Man4 Man6 slow
Xing2 Hang4 walk
Ju4 Keg6 drama
Jing4 Geng3 mirror
Ye4 Yib6 page
Re4 Yid6 hot
Jian4 Gim3 sword
Xian4 Sin3 thread
Ke3 Hod3 thirst
Guo2 Guog3 state,nation
An4 Ngon6 shore
Bang1 Bong1 help
Huo2 Wud6 to live
Huan4 Wun6 exchange, replace
Ji2 Gap1 hasty
Shi1 Sat1 lost
De2 Dak1 gain
Xin1 Samp1 heart
Xin1 Sant1 new
Sheng1 Sank1 student
Shi2 Sek6 to eat
Jing1 Zenk1 essence
Chu1 Cot1 outside
Ku1 Hok1 to cry, weep
Xin4 Sont3 to trust
Zhong1 Zonk1 middle

FontsEdit

Cantonese font:

ÀÁAÂÃÄ, ÈÉEÊẼË, ÌÍIÎĨÏ, ÒÓOÔÕÖ, ÙÚUÛŨÜ;
àáaâãä, èéeêẽë, ìíiîĩï, òóoôõö, ùúuûũü;

Ǵ Ğ Ĝ Ǧ Ġ Ģ Ḡ Ǥ Ɠ

Ḿ Ṁ Ṃ

Ń Ǹ Ň Ñ Ṅ Ņ Ṇ Ṋ Ṉ

Ḱ Ǩ Ķ Ḳ Ḵ

Ṕ Ṗ

ǵ ğ ĝ ǧ ġ ģ ḡ

ḿ ṁ ṃ ń ǹ ň ñ ṅ ņ ṇ ṋ ṉ

ḱ ǩ ķ ḳ ḵ

ṕ ṗ


http://www.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/ressources/ti/guide_test_unicode_utf8_B.html

Missing from common Western fonts:

  • E-tilde Ẽ ẽ
  • I-tilde Ĩ ĩ
  • U-tilde Ũ ũ

They are obtainable from Vietnamese font.

http://www.xuquang.com/trungdao/unicode.htm

Example of Penkyamp Edit

"Nanhai Chao" (pinyin for 南海潮, penkyamp Nam4 Hoi2 Ciu4), or "Southern Sea Tides", is a song of the overseas Cantonese. Its melody is based on the folk songs of the boat people in the Pearl River Delta and its adjacent coasts.

紅霞满洒粤天東破曉
蒸蒸日上序華章
紅棉紫荆又添千百朶
欣欣萬世象
我見江潮依然推起那舢板
卻是穿過玉宇瓊樓新靚景
我叫海潮波淘不要這洶涌
隔住一片萬里大洋帰心切

Translation:

Red clouds are overtaking the Cantonese sky at daybreak,
The rising sun preludes an elegant prose;
The silk trees (symbolizing Guangzhou) and redbuds (symbolizing Hong Kong) adds hundreds and thousands of blooms again,
What a prosperous picture to last forever!
I see river tides still pushing that "sampan" (an Asian boat),
But it rafts through a refreshing scene of edifaces of jade.
I tell the ocean not to be so turbulant,
Across from thousands of miles of ocean I am home sick.

Penkyamp transliteration:

Honkha mún sã Yeùd tïn dönk pôhiũ
Zënkzënkyàtseóng zòy wazeöng
Honkmin zĩgënk yàw tïm cïnbâg dõ
Yäntyänt mànsây zeòng
Ngó gîn göngciu yïyin töy hẽy ná sänbãn
Keôgsì ceün guô yôkyeúkenklaw sänt lêng gẽnk
Ngó gîu hõiciu bötow bätyîu zé hönkyõnk
Gâg zeù yät pîn mànléy dàiyeong guäysämpcîd



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上面有大陆在九十年代初使用的广东话拼音方案, 是PENKYAMP的原始基础

Yeudyeu, penkyamp:yat-cok-jek-hap

在追求真理的道路上

一定要热爱我们伟大的中国共产党啊

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Säm jäk yaw Mántnamwã gõipïn gê sîuwã

Penkyamp henk yeunloi jonk sek gong Mantnamwa, janthay lenk siuday puifok. Mong henktoi dodo jigau. Yeugwo nankgaw baidok dow henktoi ge Penkyampji jogbant jaw how laq. Henkhoi dakhan batyeu translate yatha go geypin Mantnamwa ge siuwa? --Hon 10:59 2005年5月8日 (UTC)
Ngo ngonbowjawban gahlag. Msay gap. Penkyamp


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越南人那样还是好一点. 因为南方文化有自己的性格, 不能永远用基于北京话的现代汉语.


而且, 即使不学越南人, 北京话不也有自己的PINYIN? 这PINYIN 就是陕甘宁革命根据地的"北拉"变来的, 当时用来写北语口语, 与国民党之乎者也的汉文不同, 表达的劳动人民的真实感情和文化, 这对新中国比较口语化的文体的形成不能说没有进步作用.


广东俗字, 我都识, 不过唔系好严肃, 大量使用口字边, 违反汉字造字原则. 最衰就唔系准确表音的, 外人睇左都唔识个字应该读MAT. 普通话有PINYIN, 其实SHI HEN JIANDAN DE XIANDAIHUA CUOSHI.


广东人也不是外族, 不希望他们以排外自大的方式来确立文化认同. 但广东文化和语言, 思考方式独特的地方也是不少的. 所以粤语作为一个独立的语言的现代化, 是能够解放广东人的文化创造力, 确立比较健康的文化认同. 对中国语言,文化的多元化也有进步作用. 因为一个语言发展了以后, 作为方言, 可取可舍, 进则进行普语粤语双语政策, 退也可以以比较科学的方式整理归纳进语言博物馆, 让人知道二十一世纪初广东人的语言原来是这样的.

那就不会徒增语言悲观主义者, 扯襟锤肺大喊广东话是推广普通话的受害者了.

现在香港回归, 广东话和广东文化有北上势头. 广东人不能因为自己说的是"方言"而感到自卑. 北方喜欢广东话的人很多, 只不过找不到方便, 系统的门路去学. 只有唔咸唔淡咁唱广东歌.

我想, 如果全国各大城市的年轻人都会讲广东话, 沟通多方便啊!

我以前因为觉得广东文化是"克里奥", 所以有自卑感, 后来上得多地方网, 对传统音乐, 工艺, 历史, 菜系, 建筑等有了充分了解, 才觉得广东人有很多值得珍惜保护的文化财产.

所以认识一个语言, 对改变对它的原有偏见是有帮助的. 这就是"解放创造力"的意思.


How gowhenk haydow gindow ney. Go penkyampji banbun jonk heymong henktoi dakhan jenkha, jonkyaw Penkyamp ge hogjab jiliu henktoi dakhan dow hoyi jenkley ha, how fongbin di santlay ge henkday-jimui hogjab Yeudyeu penkyampji. Wikipedia Jonkmantban godow ngo yigenk fanyek senk honji la. Hay nidow: [[1]]Yek dak mhow, henktoi dakhan sawjenk ha.--Hon


Henktoi msay gamp hakhey. Ngo jonkyiu doje ney bong ngo sawjenkjo ngoge goyant jiliu tim. Ngo gey-yat-cin sinji jantjenk hoici hogjab Yeudyeu penkyampji. Go pin penkyamp jonkmant fanyek casat jicin yigenk yawyant yekjo di gelaq. Ngo jibatguo hay bongsaw yekjo godi jenkfan mayyek ge bowfant.

Neywa ge Cantonese Wiki haym'ay jawhaywa nidow wikicities( m'ay wikipedia)? Oh, satsigan namp(or nam?)heylay, Cantonese wikipedia jonkmayyaw hoicit tim. Biujont ge Cantonese jaw jiyaw yatjonk, myenkgoi fant mtonk ge deykoy banbun. Jaw-seun-hay honji-ban, dow myenkgoi fant deykoy wak fan-gan-tay. Ceuntonk ge honji Yeudmant yonk ge hay fantay honji, yawdi yeudji(Yeudyeu honji) hay mow doyyenk gantay-ji ge, peyyeugong "嗰" ji. Soyi honji yeudmant yenkgoi jiyaw yatgo fantay-ban. Ngo hay mjici yonk gantay-honji lay seuse Yeudyeu ge. Penkyampji ge Yeudyeu wiki jaw gankga mow deykoy tonk matguay fan-gan-tay ji fant laq. Soyi, ngo yenkway, Yeudyeu wiki yenkgoi ji fant leonggo banbun: fantay honji ban tonk penkyampji ban. --Hon

http://hanyu.chi.cuhk.edu.hk/ Dimyeong jeong nigo jiliufu jeunbin way Penkyampji-based le?-219.134.249.163 16:57 2005年8月19日 (UTC)

http://hanyu.chi.cuhk.edu.hk/pinyin.asp  粵語拼音表 ---- senggo "jyutping" ge yampjid biu (senk-want biu) dow hay sai seu. Jiyiu jeunwun senk penkyamp ge jaw dak lag. Yonk Microsoftword ge "replace" gonknank lah!

Penkyamp

Re:请接纳 PENKYAMP 一文于赣语维基 Edit

Greetings Penkyamp,

Sorry for my late reply. The past few weeks have been very busy for me.

Gan is not my native language so I am unable to help you. However I can help you translate that article into the Minnan language on Minnan Wikipedia.



Thankyou very much Penkyamp for your wonderful translation effort!
Cantonese is very unique indeed.
May God Bless You!</big>
I will definitely help you translate the majority (at least 90%) of that article into the Minnan language before the end of this August. (I have three major upcoming exams within the next few days so I currently have very limited free time at my disposal.)
Kind Regards, --Jose77 04:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I have created the article Here. I will expand the article after my exams have finished. --Jose77 05:45, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

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